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Post by Spooky Sam » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:32 pm

My parents are going through a rough time right now arguing and such. But tonight my mom did something dumb...she banned me from watching anymore halloween/ horror movies. She says it's not normal for someone to like those movies and that it's gonna make me weird. Apparently it's turning me into a "bad person"...

What do you think about this? For once I really can't wait until Halloween is over...
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Post by Spooky » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:17 pm

How old are you??

What kind of scary movies are you watching?

If it is new scary movies, I agree...cause they are demented and I would never let my kid watch them either, I don't want to even watch them. Like Hostel or Saw or the newer Texas Chain Saw movies...I think they are too gross and twisted.

My son is going on 14, and tonight I let him watch the original Halloween with me, I had to mute a few scenes and made him cover his head a few times, but I was watching those movies at his age, and I am totally normal.

Scary movies don't make you mental....but I do believe that too much of anything...especially violence, is not a good thing...but I believe the news is worse than old horror movies.

I do think it is good that you have a mom that actually cares about your well being and cares about what influences you- she's doing a good job as a parent, and you actually should be grateful that you have a parent that is looking out for you, alot of kids these days have absolutely no rules, and no supervision, and it definately shows. So, even though it might stink , cause she's not allowing you something you like, there are worse things in life, and you'll be old enough to watch anything you want to before to long, so enjoy still being a kid.
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Post by Requiem62 » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:22 pm

I just got back from Screamfest, a horror convention held every year in Florida where Horror fans of all ages and from all over the globe get togewther to meet their favorite horror celebs, dress up and celebrate all things horror.

Each year what amazes me is how sweet, friendly, and non-judmental all these paople are. You won't find a more understanding and compassioante group of people on the earth. Why horror fansd (in my opinion) are some of the most well adjusted people on earth is because we prefer our horror on the big screen, rather than in our everday lives. We live out our anger and frustration in our movies, we explore our darker sides rather than try to subdue them or guilt ourselves into beliving this side of our nature doesn't exist.

Horror is a just another way for us to explore our inner selves, only an idiot would think horror turns a person bad. Ignorance, hatred, and intolerance is what makes someone bad, someone who is a threat to society.

To blame horror for what's wrong with society is to miss the point entirly. It's just people. There will always be evil in this world, and there will always be those that want ruin our day to day lives. We must accept this and be mature and intelligent enough to know there's no one we can blame for this and not a whole lot we can do.

Live your life, follow your interests, and don;t be afraid of what MIGHT happen to you. That's one thing horror fans know, if you let fear stop you, you may never get out alive.

How old are you? Though I disagree with your mother's rationale, you do live under her roof, and she does feed you and pay the bills I assume. So, unfortunatley, you need to be the bigger person here and follow her rules until you leave the nest. Then do as you please. Because you and I both know, loving horror is not something to be ashamed of.

Keep your chin up.

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Post by Boo » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:53 am

It sounds like you need to help your Mum and Dad out and not add to their stress......we all go through it.

HOw about skipping the gross stuff for a year and getting your Halloween fix friom Harry Potter, Sleepy Hollow and Charlie Brown?
YOu could also try to get your parents involved, try challenging them to a pumpkin carving competition or something.

I hope everything works out

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And the harpies of upper air,
That flutter and laugh and stare.

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Post by Spooky Sam » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:40 am

Spooky, I'm almost 16. I was watching Halloween 4 when she banned me. I also rented Salem's Lot and Pet Sematary. Guess that was a waste of money...
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Post by uncletor » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:54 am

A parable:
One of the guys who tried out for the Monkees never made it, even though he was the best musician who audtioned. The guys in the show said he was fat, ugly, and had bad teeth and would be BALD in no time. The guy actually cried and thought about quitting music. His friend, Dave, suggested another idea. He said he had been fired from HIS group, the guy down the road had been fired from the Hollies, and there was another guy running around with a berserk voice who had left Buffalo Springfield. Why not THE FOUR OF THEM gettign together?
The result was Crosby Stills, Nash and Young.
Take my word for it. They made more money the Monkees.
Okay, your folks are going through a spell and you're off the horror hoodoo for awhile. Roll with it. Get some comedies out. I imagine you coudl USE the laughs ever SEE a Woody Allen or Mel Brooks??..check out some murders..THEY'LL KEEP YOU IN SUSPENSE..the classic Hitchcocks, THE BONE COLLECTOR, the list goes on..spaghetti westerns are exciting and great to watch THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY is great to start with..catch up on the cool epics KUBRICKS' SPARTACUS, THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN, THE DIRTY DOZEN...
Go the library and wander around and find stuff you always wanted to know about but never had the time...it's how I took up sculpting. Volunteer...you start thinking about things in a different light when you see kids in wheelchairs who can't read..that's not being snotty, we all tend to think we have it rough until we see what reality can dish out. I know this can be a tough time, but try and see it as a chance to shake yourself out of old habits..Make sure your folks know you love them both, and for the love of mike never cross talk about one with the other...
I hope it all works out.
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Post by Spooky » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:18 pm

Spooky Sam,

The movies that you were in the process of watching, are scary, but I definately think it all depends on the person, on what they can handle.

I couldn't handle Salem's Lot, I still can't...the previews alone for that movie were so creepy, that I have never been able to watch that movie, and Pet Semetary was one I could never watch again, because the scene where the little boy gets hit by a tractor trailer truck, just really freaked me out.

Halloween 4-has been on regular TV and has been edited for violence, so if it is edited ...then that can maybe be something you can say to your parents...that if your watching the edited version, then maybe that will help.

But, I really feel that parents that actually worry about the level of violence that their kids are watching are doing a great job, because I know parents that let their kids watch the unedited version of some of these movies...at really young ages, like 7-8..or even younger. People have become desensitized to violence.

It is everywhere. It can have an effect on people, that's why I am saying everyone is different, so nobody can really say for sure what one person can tolerate...then everyone else should be able to too, it doesn't work that way.

I know when I was your age...I use to set my alarm clock to 2 am and me and my brother would sneek downstairs to watch scary movies like:" 10 to Midnight" and "Silent Rage" on HBO, but when I was a kid the world itself wasn't as scary as it is now.

Honestly, the scariest thing on regular TV right now, that you could be watching is the News.

If they don't allow you to watch scary movies...watch some milder stuff...like: The Goonies, E.T., Gremlins, Ghostbusters, and some good older 80's movies that I think would appeal to a guy your age are:

Lucas, BMX Bandits, RAD.

If you want a good "scary" movie that is PG...watch:

"The Watcher in the Woods", it is Disney's first attempt to make a scary movie. I love it. I highly recommend it, and another good one is:

Something Wicked this Way Comes

also the movie: The Lost Boys, is rated R...but there really is only 1 pretty graphic scene in the whole movie, if it came out today they would probably make it PG-13, but just check with your parents first...if you go over a list of movies with them and include them in on what your watching, maybe that would help out.

I hope it works out for you.

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Post by EvilMel » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:29 pm

I agree that there are some really awesome non-gory movies you could watch and I do totally get this idea of just rolling with it for this Halloween. I think that they might treat you like more of an adult if you approach them right. Maybe if you just tell your mom that since it is really bothering her right now you could lay off of the gory movies. Then later when things calm down, you could just go to her and say that you actually really enjoy watching all kinds of horror movies and wish that she would understand about it (afterall it's just make believe...the movie industry does not create psychotic kids).

But to be supportive...I think it's a bit ridiculous to keep kids from watching movies at your age. I mean, will she be ok with it in 2 years when you can legally go to any theater and watch tons of gore? It's not like you are watching hours of porn. I have been watching all kinds of gory scary movies since I was a baby (literally). I think that if you enjoy them...it would be nice if your parents could understand.

Are you some alternative type? Is that what she's really mad at? Are like a goth or something and she blames that on your love of scary movies? I was a punk when I was younger but it didn't have a thing to do with my love of horror movies. I'm heavily tattooed now...but I know plenty of tattooed people who don't like the horror genre.

With all that said...let me reiterate my point that I do not think it would be a good idea to start a big argument with your parents as it will just make them see you as an immature kid who is pissed at not having your way. To make them see you as an adult...just chill for now...then talk to them about it calmly later.

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Post by uncletor » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:46 pm

Dang that Spooky, she always beats me to the punch naming the movies first..
there is also both ADDAMS FAMILIES, YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN,

have you seen THE GODFATHER 1 and 2 yet?

How about the cinema of Akira Kurosawa??? (There are about half a dozen great directore of all time. He's the king of the heap from Japan. Carrie Fisher says she would have paid just to have been a tree in RASHOMON..)
Help out with the neighbours taking their kids around for Halloween??
How about Twilight Zone, Outer Limits? Night Gallery?

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Post by Spooky Sam » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:58 pm

I get what you are saying. I REALLY want to see the original Frankenstein and the original Dracula, but neither of them are available on dvd here...
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Post by Spooky » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:43 pm

Spooky Sam,

There are some older movies that are pretty scary...like the original "Night of the Living Dead". That took me 20 years to build myself up to where I could watch it, cause just the previews for it scared me.

I do love all the older black and white scary stuff too...like Dracula....and even the old Werewolf movies ...those you can find in Wal-Mart and Kmart for like $5. There's all kinds of scary older stuff...the Dollar Tree has DVDs for $1. I don't know what they are like, but they sounded pretty cool.
I made a gift basket up for a party prize and stuck some of those movies in there with some popcorn and movie theater candy.


I think people like to scare themselves....that's why scary movies are so popular....it is thrilling and exciting...but I do believe that movie makers have taken it to the extreme, to where it isn't even about someone jumping out and scaring someone, it's about showing these horrible imagines, and somethings are better left being unseen, in my book, cause they are too disturbing.

Even being an adult, there are things out there now, that I have absolutely no desire to see, and I know that I am better off not knowing they even exist.

I don't believe that watching scary movies makes people crazy, but I do believe that surrounding yourself in only things of that nature can be a sign of other issues.

Like if all a kid wanted to watch was horror, and all they wanted to listen to was music that talked about death and dying and was all negative...then those are clear signs of something else going on.
That's why I am saying it all depends on each person, because each person's lives are completely different. I like a good scary movie, but I am not going to make it be my only thing that I love, I like all kinds of movies, and I don't want to listen to music that the singers look like they walked out of a horror movie set, I want uplifting happy music.


When I was your age...I watched movies like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers", but I was also watching "Emmet Otter's Jug Band Christmas", and I liked them both for what they were.

You never said if you want to just watch only horror movies and nothing else, or if you just want to watch horror movies cause it is close to Halloween.

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Post by MHooch » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:28 am

Spooky Sam: sorry things at your house aren't so great right now. Speaking as a married person, and a mom, my advice to you is to try and cut your parents some slack. Let the mood blow over (here's hoping it won't be long), and just lay low. Don't let this ruin your Halloween time, do your normal stuff (except the movie thing :( ), and try and have a good time. It's hard to be having a conflict with your partner and not let it spill over into other areas of your life and relationships, although as parents we all try and shield our children from that aspect of things. Come here and talk to us if you want a Halloween spirit boost, or just need to vent. No judging here. Keep the chin up. (Awesome mask, by the way, you rock!)

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Post by lttlnative » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:01 am

Hi Sam,
Sorry you are going though all this too. I was a young mom ( I had 3 before I was 23!) It is hard to try to be fair and not to judge too much on what your kids watch, listen and do. I feel bad for you but please understand your mom just wants you SAFE! She probably feels so bad when she has to give you rules, but understand something she loves you very much and right now you are her pride and joy!
She wants to make sure you do not hurt like she is hurting right now!
Give her a hug once in a while and tell her you love her even if you yourself are having a bad day cause there is a strong possibility she had a really bad day wondering how bills will get paid, when she can find time to pay them, and how oh how can she spend time with you now when she has the roll for 2 people and has to try to stay sane in the process of all this mess of a separation/divorce.
Just remember sooooo many people ( about 65%) are getting divorced!
You may feel like the only people but I have been thru 3 divorces ( my moms) It was so hard on me all the moving and all.
Ask here if there are .....Um rated ones she wouldn't mind letting you watch. Try to keep up on chores/homework too.
She will be happier that she doesn't have to get mad and tell you.
You won't believe how that will make her stress just melt away when she gets home and sees what a wonderful kid you are turning out to be.
and you might see that she will give you more of a leash!
My girls tell me they saw how tired I was after working a long 12 hour day and just to come home and collapes!
It was sooooo nice to know they thought about me enough to do this for me! their dad wasnt paying child support and trying to raise 3 kids is very scary by your self! believe me!
So maybe like I said she if she will be ok with pg13? or have her go with you to the movie store and pick a couple that she remembers and see how that goes. but please! please! try to work with her even if your friends tell you different.
I moved around so much as a kids my poor mom! I would make a couple of friends and we would have to move again! I protested and felt bad, but I was hurting too! any way she tried hard to be a good parent. She did like old dracula movies the classics! and I don't just mean black and white but those were scary too! check out the old ones and move up they had some great names Bella Lagosi, Alfred Hitchcock, I am serious! I think you should start with some of the cool great old stuff. you will appreciate how the new ones are made and how they got influenced! they are pretty cool!
I remember me and my mom going to a theater to see this dracula movie and I thought it was so cool that at age 11 I was able to say the name of that movie with out getting in trouble! my mom didn't like it but she really couldn't say much cause it was the name of the movie. Ledgend of Hell house! any way your mom may just agree on some of the old ones and you might think they are a little cheezy, but they can still give you a good scare!
Oh my kids are now 26,23,21
One is a teacher,one a Psyc major, and one just got married.
all girls!
and I had one of each a sassy one a good one, and a really quite and sneeky one.
they listened to one album of Marilyn Manson and I was very uneasy, but it turned out they didn't like him and never got another one.
not that he is bad news, but I (at the time was so relieved) anyway
i was alway honest with them. I told em when I didn't like someone and to be careful.
I still allowed them into my home but kept a close eye on every single one of them and eventually they figured out they couldn't trust too many of them too much.
Well Good luck kiddo!
write me back if ya want some pointers/ help finding a good scary classic!
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Post by William » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:45 am

Well spooky tell your mom that this movies has no affect on you, and that u watch them for pleasure not to be like those. Dracula her in orihinal you can find it easealy:P
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Post by uncletor » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:40 am

If I'm any judge of horseflesh, you should be able to get Drac and Frank from the library. It'll be VHS..but will also be free..they also turn up A LOT at flea markets for usuallly less then ten bucks..some stores have the DVD collections, but not a lot...Universal's release agenda is unexplainable..why they haven't but them out on bargin discs with extras is more then I can understand...
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